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What's available in the way of headers for cars?

Speedmaven — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:15:59 GMT

I will probably be buying the Reds headers and modifying them for turbos, but for now, while I am putting this thing together, I have another running 292 to stick in the car to get it going. What kind of headers are out there, for a reasonable price, for the Y in a car? I know Patriot makes a decent set, but they only list them for a truck. Will the fenderwell exit Patriots for 53-56 truck work in a `57 Custom without a lot of drama? If it turns into too much of a pain, I may just use the stock dual exhaust manifolds I have on it. This one wont be very mean, maybe an Isky cam, Demon carb, MSD distrib, stuff like that. If I cant find new headers, anybody out there got any used passenger car fenderwell exit headers they want to part with?

coolant catch can

charliemccraney — Fri, 02 May 2008 09:35:24 GMT

Concerning the NHRA regulations, does the capacity matter?

chihuahua express

Carson — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:52:19 GMT

raced my 1954 Vic 292 Y block in a three day vintage class rally in the country outside of Chihuahua City ,Mx

very challenging roads. high speed sections and lots of curves = long 10 hr days. we suffered penelties on Friday ( ran out of fuel ) and ahd to catch up

Saturday kissed a gaurd rail ( lost power steering pump and had to catch uo again )

Sunday ran good ( still no power steering ) finished third in class overall

check out photos and result times om www.chihuahuaexpress.com

will be goin back next year

Carson Scheller

1955 Kurtis GT coupe w/ Y block

Carson — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:03:39 GMT

I wasnt he only Y block in the Chihuahua express

Ron Lee raced his beautiful 1955 Kurtis Gt coupe which has a lincoln Y block w/ twin carbs. This car is featured in Hot Rod mag this month

unfortunatly Ron had problems and didnt finish the rally

checkout www.lacarrera2007.blogspot.com for more stories and photos

Texas Deal

yehaabill — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:13:08 GMT

Y-guys: When is the Ford deal in Texas this May 2008?

Thx Bill

It's Alive!

Hoosier Hurricane — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:37:40 GMT

At 8:45 this morning, I lit the first fire in the Mummert pistoned (Probe) Eagle rodded newly built engine in the Hurricane. What a sweet sound, open headers barking out the cadence, 15486372. Makes me want to go scrub hunting.

John in Selma, IN

Traction Bars

yehaabill — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:15:17 GMT

Y-Guys Any info or experience with "Caltacs"

Pro's/Cons Thx Bill

Columbus 08

LON — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:55:33 GMT

The Aussies are coming .Last Saturday we booked and paid 4 return air tickets to Los Angeles .We are driving from LA to Columbus , then flying back to LA.Hope to see a few sights along the way .Going to Pomona swap while we are LA. How many folks from "The Great White North " will make the long drive to Columbus ??? Looking forward to seeing all the "family " at the reunion . Even (some ) of those distant "cousins " from North of the border .

Regards Lon

Looking for the 1957 Nascar Y block records...

Daniel Jessup — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:50:03 GMT

Anybody know where I can find the 1957 Ford Y block Nascar win stats for Nascar and the convertible series?

thanks, Dan

PSMCDR @ Stanton, Michigan

pegleg — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:57:07 GMT

Midwesterners,

Last chance, this year, to see a pure stock muscle car drag race in the midwest will happen Fri Sept 15th. Eliminations, best two out of three races, will happen tomorrow, Sept 16th. The track is the Mid-Michigan Motorplex in Stanton Michigan. This is located just to the northeast of Grand Rapids, Michigan. They have a web site at either PSMCDR or Mid Michigan, with maps and times. John Feistritzer (57 T'Bird F code) and Frank Rice (57 Custom 300, F code) along with a ton of Cobra Jets, 427 Marauders, Blower Studebakers and more will be there.

Be nice to have some moral support from anybody NOT wearing a Bowtie shirt!

[url]http://www.geocities.com/psmcdr[/url]

Frank/Rebop

#424 B/SR The Blue Racer, 312 Y-BLOCK

Harms Way — Thu, 10 May 2007 22:00:43 GMT

Hi all,
I am new to this board, in fact I just found out about it,... Here is what I have,

This car is from the Dearborn / Detroit area. It's a ‘31 Model A roadster body channeled on a ‘32 Ford frame. It ran in the B/SR division as ‘424 The Blue Racer’ owned by Loren McCombs of Dearborn. It ran a 312 Y-block with a Hilborn fuel injection, but the most significant thing about this little roadster is that it Won the B/SR National Title at the 1964 NHRA U.S. Nationals in Indy, and from what I have been told it is the only [u]modified[/u] to ever win a national title with a Y-block Ford ( is there any way to verify this ?). I recently acquired what was left of the car. A big ‘thank you’ goes to Dave Crain for reuniting this car with it's history.
I am looking for anything I can find, there was a picture in Popular Hot Rodding in Dec. 1964 of the trophy run, and a picture in the 64 Hot Rod Annual of Loren standing next to the car with the trophy,..... but that's all I know, any info you guy's can shed on this would be great.
[img]http://littlejoe.ejourney.com/~poncho/09.jpeg[/img]
The trophy run at the nats in 64

[img]http://littlejoe.ejourney.com/~poncho/10.jpeg[/img]
and how I brought it home

Texas Mile

AZ28 — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:40:48 GMT

Have any of you Texas guys ever witnessed this show?

Maybe a Y-Block car ought to post a time someday just to show the colors!

http://texasmile.com/

Next weekend at Goliad ...................

A Hurricane of a Video

63 Red Stake Bed — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:06:49 GMT

I spotted this one today.. Nice Job & sounds so sweet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXhrrz3kQ98

mag story on PanAm race

Carson — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:54 GMT

Thanks everyone for your kind compliments....

look for story and car/motor details in upcomming

Y Block mag and

Legionary Ford mag

cheers,Carson

mexican la carrera race

Carson — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:58:44 GMT

1954 Ford Vic with a 292 Y block wins the "original Panamericana" class

in the 20th anniversary 3000 km Mexican road race .

car built by Tom Roland, TX

engine built by John Mummert, CA

owned and drivin by Carson Scheller, CA

co-pilot Shields Richardson, CA

www.lacarrerapanamericana.com.mx

Columbus pictures

pintoplumber — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:46:29 GMT

Tony, if you're looking in - great pictures. Thanks

For all member´s same pic´s in the Drag Racing

M10066 — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:36:38 GMT

I coment to you that , on saturday I went to The Drag Racing with my truck , but I don´t run with she because I don´t like your carburation , but in this post I show you my truck and other cars in this place .

I hope you enjoy this .

http://www.tcurbanoweb.com.ar/forum/index.php?topic=3107.0

Martin, Michigan Pure stock drag race

pegleg — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:25:32 GMT

The Red car went a 13.83 @ 105.61 mph, but lost to a 375 hp, 396 c.i. Yenko Camaro. He ran .6 seconds under his qualifying time @13.54 and 103 mph. I went a .34 under my 14.17 qualifying time. You are allowed to run .3 seconds under so we both broke out, and they awarded him the round win. In NHRA the rules are first or worst and I would have won. In the second race I lost a blower belt and slowed to a 14.03 @103, the Camaro smoked the tires, but went a 14.02 for the win. Both Races the Ford was gaining at the end, and actually going faster than the much lighter Camaro. I lost, but they knew we were there! Got a LOT of questions and startled looks from the younger fans who'd never seen a blower '57 before. Got some compliments from the older guys, mostly "heard about these, but never saw one" told them "You have now!" :)

Thanks for all the pics!

bird55 — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:19:29 GMT

After having to cancel my plans to Columbus this time it was sure great to see all the pics. I like seeing all the familer "old" faces and especially Ted's view of cars in the pits. I'll take a walk thru the pits anytime over a seat in the grandstands. :D
Thanks again!

Texas shootout

Hollow Head — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:26:21 GMT

Hey all racers! I was scrolling down those great pics about Texas shootout and one thing sticked to my eye. That black Mercury Comet. Others lift their front tires but that guy lifts his left rear tire. Wonder if that does any good for traction..:D

http://www.texasfordshootout.net/html/tfs07_10.html

Autopsy

Hoosier Hurricane — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:30:04 GMT

Bird 55:

In answer to your question of what broke in the Hurricane, I have this to offer. The last couple of days I have been working on it. I found #5 rod broken off both sides where the heads of the rod bolts seat. Arp bolts didn't break. #5 piston is destroyed, and the cylinder wall cracked. #1 rod and piston are damaged. There is about a 3 square inch hole in the side of the block. It broke out between two of the pan bolts, the pan flange and side are not damaged. The scraper is demolished, the screen damaged. The oil pickup tube is OK. The cam was not touched. The crank passed magnaflux, will need grinding to remove the nicks and burrs. The other six rods passed magnaflux. The six remaining pistons show no signs of cracks in the oil ring groove where the TRW pistons tend to crack. So other than a little scuffing up of the parts, the engine is not bad. Bearings and cylinder walls look good. It's built Ford Tough!

John

Traction Bar advice

paul2748 — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:57:20 GMT

I went to the local Old Time Drags with my 54 (312, 4 speed and 9 inch) and made some time trials. The car ran pretty good, certainly no world beater, but I had fun. The main problem I had was getting off the line. The rear end hops and I had to get off it. I have stock rear springs and no traction bar setup. I am not going to do any serious racing, but I am looking for a traction bar setup that is easy to install (preferably with no welding) and keeps a decent ride. Is Traction Masters a decent set up? How about these slapper bars-I don't know what they call them- that bolt on and have the rubber that comes up to hit the spring? Any other suggestions? I saw the article in the last YBM but its beyond me to fabricate.

Thanks for any help.

My photograf for my truck

M10066 — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:23:16 GMT

Hello Anibal again , I post my photograf about my truck I hope that you like that .

A embrace to all .

Where's the photos ???

LON — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:31:11 GMT

Where's the photos ??? For all of us that couldn't make Columbus ,I've been waiting for someone to post some on the site .How many Canadians made it this year ?? Please, someone ,put me out of my misery.

Regards Lon

Petronics Ignition

marvsmerc — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:14:59 GMT

Hi Guys, Installed a petronics ignitor in my 54 according to the instructions that came with it & the engine started up but ran terrible. I got a 6 volt one, but I have changed the car to 12 volts with a Ballast resistor before the coil.. Checked the voltage on the + side after the resistor of the coil when it was running & got 7 to 8 volts. On the - side I only showed 3 to 4 volts??? Why the voltage drop? I checked the braided ground wire in the distributer & it is hooked up. I changed coils & got the same. Like to get it right so I don't burn up the expensive module.

Any help would help would be appreciated for this weekend Mechanic. Thanks, Mike

I heard the sound of yblocks…

bird55 — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:57:25 GMT

I spoke on the phone to Ralph and Sam Alix (had to cancel my plans to go with them :crying: ) And it sounds like those of us who are still sitting at home are missing out again. Lots of fun, food, racing AND I could hear that unique rumble in the background!
See you there in '08 :w00t:

Whats your ET

312THUNDER — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:59:50 GMT

Whats your ET in the 1/8th or 1/4, whichever you have. List it with your engine and car info, engine, cam, intake, heads, CR, carb, tires, gears, transmission, weight if you have it, and any other important info or other stuff you can think of.:D

Last call to Columbus

LON — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:06:23 GMT

Its just about 9pm Thursday .I wish we were at the Super 8 right now . To everyone attending this year ,good luck ,& may the best Y-block win .I hope you all have a safe trip ,and hope to see everyone next .To all that can't make this year ,start planning for 2008 .This event, is without doubt,The Greatest Show on Earth .

Regards Lon & Lynne

Shootout at Columbus

60larsen — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:52:45 GMT

Hi all,
I think I can actually go to the shootout this year -- where can I find out what days/times events are planned?
Hope to see lots of you there!
Chris Larsen

A question , I need your help

M10066 — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:38:40 GMT

Hello , Anibal again , I want to put in my truck the roller rockers, but I don`t know which one to buy, because in my country doesn`t know about my engine, I put my truck in your hands, and I hope your important and really opinion.

And if yours know where I could buy that product, please tell me, and tell me too if them accept credit card OK ?

Thank you for all

Engine Masters Challenge is a No-Go for proposed 312 entry.

Ted — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:57:28 GMT

I received a call from the Engine Masters Competition representative and was informed that mushroom lifters would not be allowed in this years competition regardless if it was an OEM option or not. The mushroom tappet rule basically keeps the 312 Y-Block combination I proposed from being a contender in this years competition.

The rules for this year are very specific in not allowing mushroom tappets and regardless of what some of you may be prompted to say, were not written specifically to keep the Y’s from competing. I had already pleaded my case regarding the mushroom lifters being factory installed in this family of engines but the rules are very clear in what’s allowed and I’ll accept that. After a lengthy discussion with the EMC representative, this was simply a case where the rules banned all mushroom tappets regardless if they were OEM supplied or not. Because the Y is not a mainstream engine, the mushroom lifter rule was originally written without consideration to those engines that had them factory installed. Once the rules were written and released for this years competition, there was no going back with an exception in this instance as there were legal ramifications to consider.

Because I am still eligible for the competition regardless of the engine entry, I took a quick inventory and find that there are enough spare pieces stored around the shop to make an aluminum (or tunnel port) headed Fe that will be suitable for the competition. Of course I’ve still got to move far enough up on the alternate list to actually be called up for the competition. If not called up, at least a bunch of spare parts will be put to use.

The 312 combination I’m currently assembling will continue to be worked on as I’ve already made a substantial investment in it but I’m no longer forced to work within the original time constraints to get it finished.

The C2AE 312 block has been cryogenically treated, torque plate bored and rough honed, and has had the main bores align honed. The cylinder honing will be completed upon getting the pistons and insuring that all the clearances are spot on and then mill the decks appropriately. The block decks have been redrilled and tapped for ARP ½" head bolts. The C2 steel rods are rebuilt with new ARP rod bolts and match weight balanced. Pistons utilizing a special high turbulence dome for low rpm flame propagation and a special set of low drag rings have been ordered for awhile now and are expected to be showing up at any time. The 312 crankshaft is laid out and ready to have the journals ground to the appropriate dimensions for the desired clearances. I have been culling through the 113 heads and have ultimately found two that were not cracked and have started port work on these before installing new seats and eventually new valves. The beehive springs and retainers are here along with the Iskenderian camshaft that’s special ground for this engine.

Triumph Transmission

pegleg — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:49:51 GMT

I need someone on the East Coast, who's going to be at Columbus, to haul a Triumph TR6 transmission back to or close to Richmond Va. The fella who bought it would pick it up at your garage or whatever. Will pay transportation.

Dove aluminum heads

Don Woodruff — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:59:12 GMT

While looking at the FE website under a post titled DOVE SOHC KITS I caught a a pair of "Y" block heads on top of a bunch of castings. Heads are reputed to flow 250 cfm are an experiment only at this time.

Mid Mich. 06 Pure Stock

Ol Ford Guy — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:17:03 GMT

There is good coverage of the Mid Michigan 06 Pure Stock event, 4 pages and 14 pictures in the July 07 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines. There is a picture of John F's. 57 F Bird in the article too. The August issue has a feature article on Ted Harbits R2 Lark, if anyone is interested.

Columbus

Canadian Hot Rodder — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:34:53 GMT

Although this might please some people:P it pains me to say that I will have to cancel my plans to go to Columbus this year. :crying: Due to family commitments which take priority, I will not be able to defend the "International title" (not that I had any competition)!

Anyhow, I am REALLY disapointed I cannot be there this year but I will still be putting up some money in the prize fund for any non-U.S. racer that decides to show. So hopefully some fellow Canadian will step up to the plate to defend our title just in case one of those "peski" Aussie's decide to show and claim bragging rights! :w00t:

I will miss having good times with my "Y" family, but hopefully I can return next year! For anyone that still needs a hotel room ( I know they are scarce) please contact me before I cancel mine, and maybe I can get them to reserve it for you before someone else snaps it up.

For all that show up, have a great time, hopefully the weather co-operates and I will be there in spirit!

Rob

Freak Race in Finland

Hollow Head — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:30:55 GMT

Here is some links to go to see what a nice weekend we just had :cool:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghpM0-buz9E

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c76/ford50/freak%20race%2007/

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Aku_81/friikreis07/

I will ad more after all has been found.

Racing automatics

mongo — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:26:36 GMT

Out of all automatics out there, which one can take the most beating under racing conditions only ? I am a stick person, but I am leaning towards a C4 , don't want a c6 , size and wiegh . Is anything else out there , for a high power , low wieght car ?

Questions about '56 Transmissions and the potential of the stock 292

312THUNDER — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:18:38 GMT

Alright, I literally JUST wrote my last check for my Firebird a few mintes ago, at almost 1 in the morning haha. Anyway, anticiapting finishing paying off my Bird, I picked up the local "Special Interest vehilcle" Bargain News last (well really two nights ago now) night at our Saturday Night Cruise. Anyway, I cam across two '56 Fords, just happens to be my favorite year. I beleive that theyre two doors, im going to inquire tomarrow because I dont want a four door. Theres a Crown Vic and a Customline, both V8s, supposed to be in good shape (The Customline says no rust) and theyre both in the middle of their restorations. I would get it back on the road and finish as I drove. Anyway, now here are my questions.

First, the transmissions. I have a hunch that the Customline is a three on the tree, and I was wondering whats the deal with the overdrive transmission. Is it two speeds plus overdrive, or is it three plus overdrive, and what is the overdrive ratio.

Anyway, I would stick a nicely sized cam in the 272 or 292 to get that nice sound and some extra performance, as well as my own, custom exhaust (exiting right before the back tires), slap on some cheater slicks and get a nice '50s hot rod look going. I would plan to get a 352 or 390 in there soon (dont hate me, FEs arent cheap either but Y blocks are just too darn expensive fo the performance I want, I NEED DISPLACEMENT!!!!!) For the mean time, do you think I could manage to get 15s iout of the 272, if thats what it is? Depending on what the overdrive ratio is I would slide a 9 inch under it, with at least 3.91s. Maybe more. A Holley 600, maybe headers if I could get a piar cheap enough. Also, here comes another 272/292 question, did they come with forged pistons? I dont think they did, but I would probably have the heads milled too, to acheive at least 10.5:1. Ive heard some stuff about cast pistons with high compression, and my general understanding is that 10-11:1 is as high as they should be taken. Is this true? because for 70 cents more a gallon than what I have to pay for 93 I can get aviation fuel from our local, small airport. If I can get sky high with the compression, I'll get it thumping right up there as high as possible without running into valve clearance issues, I think 12.5:1 compression might make for a pretty nasty running little 272 or 292.

Im the type of guy who likes to tinker with stuff, and I would definately spend some time with this car at the strip. Do you think I can get into he mid 15s (with 10.5:1 compression) and if I can go higher witht he compression, how quick do you think I can get? Im willing to pin the needle to somewhere in the 6 grand to 6500 range if theyre forged. Dont want to push the stock shortblock too much though. Could a high 14 be possible with some skull cracking compression? And how high do you think I could even get compression wise before the were valve clearance issues, figure about .450 lift.

Trans Rebuild

NewPunkRKR — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:20:18 GMT

The trans in my '57 fairlane is starting to slip after about 5 mins of driving. If I put it in 1st and start out slow it's ok, but if I just hammer on it in drive it squeals. The plate says "Ford Automatic Transmission, 103D-150896, Marvel Schebler Prod. Div., Borg-Warner" Haven't been able to locate any information on it, is it an original ford-o-matic??

I talked with a local shop, and the guy was very familiar with the 50's fords and said he could rebuild them in his sleep (unfortunately i didn't have the number information when i spoke to him)

Is it worth it for me to rebuild it? He said it would be about $800 to pull it apart and go through the whole thing.

I got the car 2 summers ago, and while it didn't run when i got it, its slowly turning into a great running car. I've got a 312 w/ holley 570 street avenger on 1" spacer, MSD dist/blaster coil/ignition control/timing control, headers to 40 series flowmasters w/ rear axel dumps. I'm looking to do intake and cam next - I want to build a fast car, but i don't want to rebuild the trans only to trash it again. Any thoughts or recommendations??? I'm doing some body and paint work and then maybe i'll get a picture up. I've got tons of questions and a lot to learn, but that's enough for this post. Thanks in advance for your help! - John

I know its not a Y, but whats the power potential on a NA Flathead

312THUNDER — Wed, 23 May 2007 23:08:59 GMT

What would some of you flathead knowledgable guys say the power potential of one is if it displaced someplace in the 280 cube area?