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Another Y-Block LSR Build

57 ranchwagon — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:38:29 GMT

Here are a few Pics and a short description of myself and a Friends Land speed racing project. About a year ago while sipping on a few cold ones and maybe alittle homemade whiskey a plan was hatched. We were going to try a modern day attempt at what Karol Miller did in the 50's but with modern technology. This is not a high dollar project with lots of money thrown at it.(although more has been thrown at it than planned for right) It is a group effort of several like minded friends that drive there cars to shows and have fun doing it. We will be towing to the races for logistical purposes (I have driven my 57 y-block ranchwagon from Ga to Vegas and back it is worth doing) its really is the only option. We will run a 55 Fairlane in the C/CGPRO (C Classic Gas Production) Class. We are going to run ECTA races in NC to sort out a few things and head for the salt In 2010 or 2011 depending on our results. I have attempted to due as much of this build my self as possible verses farming out work to the pros. All metal fab was performed in house with the help of friends. I will attempt to update this as much as possible but I have come to realize im horrible at documenting my work.

Y-Block Powered FED Project

mctim64 — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:53:31 GMT

Well I've been talking about building a dragster for some time now and have been gathering parts for a month, so now that I've actually got some work done on it I thought I'd share some pix of the process with you guys. I want to thank Charlie Burns for all the help he has given me acquiring parts for the car and I want to say thank you to Ted Eaton for his help with advise and sending me his Y/Powerglide adaptor template, although I've decided to go with a C-4 since the Eagle Field rules now say "no two speed transmissions" but we didn't know that when he sent it. I'll be getting that back to you soon Ted. :) The C-4 bell I got from John Mummert, a very nice item indeed. :)

Anyway here is a look at what's going on and there will be more to come. The work is proceeding nicely now and I hope to have a running car for the May 22nd meet, well we'll see. :D

2010 EMC rules favor Y Blocks

RB — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:51:35 GMT

New rules are just out. Some changes from last year which actually favor us..

Dual plane intakes only on carbed engines

Carb size limited to 1 750-800 cfm

Hydraulic lifter only with a noted exception for the Y Block

RPM range is set at 2500 - 6500

The "Kaase Rule". The winner from 09 has to enter a different brand. Seems they are getting tired of Mr K's CHI headed 400s cleaning up every year.

The rules blantantly handicap carbed engines while giving injected motors a break.. Looks like they want some of the late model stuff to be more competitive.

Ted, do you think we can move up in the standings?

Smokey Yunick and the Y Block Blowers

Oldmics — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:21:18 GMT

Just finished reading the second book in Smokey"s autobiagraphy.

In it he briefly mentions the Ford 57 blower as being a "piece of junk Mc Cullah setup".He says he welded the blower wide open,opened up the needle and seat in the carb (which didnt work) and finally put an electric fuel pump on it.

Then it went like hell!

Any thoughts on technically what his discription means?

Oldmics

Y Block powered Crackerbox

RB — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:23:41 GMT

Is this cool or what.... I want one... I REALLY want one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u9_55_2E58

Thunderbird Drag cars

Hollow Head — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:24:30 GMT

Nice wheelies ;).

Eagle Field Drags

mctim64 — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:29:28 GMT

Mark it on your calendar and try to make it! We will all have a good time!:D

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Thunderbird road racer

Hollow Head — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:48:11 GMT

Someone might be interested?

http://forums.autosport.com/lofiversion/index.php/t114199.html

KAROL MILLER Y BLOCK MAGAZINE

aussiebill — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:10:50 GMT

Guys, by now most of you would be drooling in your y block magazine as usual, there's a fantastic pic of young Karol Miller and car at Bonneville, looks like replacing head gasket? Notice the latham blower near his girlfriends feet. Reminds most of us that you sure only needed the basic tools and youth to go racing then! best regards bill.

Mallory Electronic Distributer

Rono — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:59:37 GMT

guys;

Mallory's electronic Y-Block distributor does not have a vacuum advance. So, if you are building a blown Y-Block where you would normally block off the vacuum advance anyway, would this be a better choice than a '57 and later Y-Block distributer with a Pertronix ignition? I was going to use a Barry Grant Carb with mechanical secondaries set-up with a blow through.

Thanks,

Rono

leningrad cowboys racing

Carson — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:10:30 GMT

Finnish Team runs Mexico's la Carrera 2009 in a beautiful 1958 Corvette

check out

www.leningradcowboys.fi

besure to click on "youtube " icon

and

www.leningradcowboysracing.com

these guys are great

Y Block powered Falcon Gasser

Glen Henderson — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:37:16 GMT

Thought I would post up a few pictures of the project.

Barbeque time in Finland

Hollow Head — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:00:48 GMT

Hey, if someone has wondered why I have been so quiet lately, here is an answer. I've been busy and waiting to get our new " pig " to the grill and to make it go around and to be barbequed... :D.

And now it is quite easy to flip over, finally...

Oh, and never mind to ask, it'll have a turbocharged Y on it :w00t:!

BonnevilleComet

57FordPU — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:53:54 GMT

Just a tear down at this point. Anyone can blow a car apart, but will I be able to pull off a real race car fabrication capable of much higher speeds? I'm sure I'll need plenty of recommendations and help to steer me along, so please feel free to comment or recommend. After all, I feel like this is our project.

Next will be a Mustang II front suspension, narrowed 9" rear, Y-Block and T-5 mockup for crossmembers and engine mounts.

I will be working hard to get this thing to look like a race car. My imagination works well, but a glimpse of the finished product sure helps the inspiration.

Cool FED sites

Hollow Head — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:00:10 GMT

These are just too cool...

http://frontenginedragsters.org/photos1.htm

electric water pump

glrbird — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:49:49 GMT

Ted

Did you make your electric water pump from a MOPAR one, or did you get the motor from something else.

West Aussie Personality

rick55 — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:44:14 GMT

In the this'n'that category there was mention of one of West Oz's greatest YBlock legends, Bob St Lawrence.
A team of guys have been working frantically to get his old car, rejuvenated and running for Bob who is seriously ill.
A video of the first run of the new car is posted on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaOMl4_IXr8

You can also read about the efforts to get the car to track at:
http://www.wadragracing.com/joomla2/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,26/func,view/id,12968/catid,3/limit,20/limitstart,0/
I hope you all enjoy.
Regards

Eaton Y Block on Cover of Popular Hot Rodding

RB — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:07:29 GMT

Just out on the Feb issue. Have not looked inside yet

getting ready for racing

yblock32deuce — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:29:07 GMT

since I have not been a participant in dragracing since 62, and since the 57 hasnt raced since 82.....think both of us need updating. for instance, the roll bar in the 57 is a 3 point bar,is this still legal, or..seat belts of what material...sure there is a rulebook that is available for the shoot out or something like that. any help would be appreciated. :)

T-Bird funny car

Pete's Panel — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:44:08 GMT

Currently on aussie e-pay, only just found it, it's just about to finish.

6.6 @ 200

Item number was 200413450852 [ sorry haven't worked out how to add a link]:blush:

SFi damper for Y-block

Hollow Head — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:45:20 GMT

So, if we are going to race here in Finland, we sure do need SFi spec damper for our Y. Is there any? I know Ted did a conversion from some scrub part. How would we get Mummerts new dampers SFi specified. What would that cost? Just an idea... I know I know... a stupid one. Just dreaming about bolt on damper with SFi on it ;).

And how about a flexplate with Y and PG?

bonnet vs. air box

Rono — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:45:59 GMT

In planning ahead for my 331cu.in. blown Y-Block project, I was just wondering why I couldn't use something like a '68 Shelby pressure (air) box instead of a blower bonnet for the carb. It would seem that with the box I would have more choices for carb selection as long as the bores and mounting locations matched. Also, I wouldn't need to try to seal the throttle shafts and accelerator pump. The bonnet would be easier to set-up, but then you have all the carb mods you need to make. I know the air box isn't correct for the Y-Block, I'm just trying to figure which would be the better way to go.

Thanks,

Rono.

EMC Y-Block Report

Ted — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:50:33 GMT

Guys. Had a great time at the Engine Masters Challenge and would definitely do it again. I entered a 375 inch Y which ended up being too big an engine for the iron heads to have a really good score. At 6700 rpms, the engine was just out of air. Good peak numbers though and that’s what I was counting on. The 316 incher I readied for last years competition would have had a much better score at the expense of reduced peak numbers. The big numbers did not rule at this competition as there were several 800 plus horsepower engines but their average scores were down compared to the smaller engines. Triple thanks goes to the other Y team members who assisted me at the EMC site which included Jody Orsag, Harry Hutten, Jerry Christenson, and Royce Brechler.

The 375 got that way by way of a 3.859” bore with a 4.00” stroke. Pistons with a 9cc dish gave me a 10.1:1 static compression ratio and 9.0:1 dynamic compression ratio. And the engine idled like a champ with a healthy rumble at 900 rpms through the mufflers. The original plan was to enter the 4.00” bore X 4.00” stroke combination (403 CID) but the block just ended up not being strong enough once the cylinders were bored out and replaced with sleeves. That engine ultimately twisted the block on a moderate dyno pull to the point the camshaft was difficult to remove. A new set of pistons arrived in the middle of September for the 375” combination at which point the assembly of a new and smaller sized Y started going back together.

On my dyno, the 375 incher was peaking 462-464HP and 446-449 lbs/ft torque. At the EMC competition, I lost numbers like the other competitors. The best EMC numbers after tuning changes in preparation for the qualifying session netted the Y team 433HP and 416 lbs/ft torque peak values. Still not too shabby for an engine We could have put back in a car (or truck) and driven back home on pump gas. Although I tested the engine at 7000 rpms on my end, it was pushed to 7400-7500 rpms during the competition. It held up just fine to the surprise of everyone at the competition. After 49 pulls on my own dyno, I was reasonably confident that the engine was not going to be easy to hurt. I had already increased the over the nose valve spring pressure from 330 lbs to 388 lbs during the course of testing just to insure that the rpm capability was going to be there. The Isky cam and lifters are showing no signs of wear after all of this abuse.

The electric water pump is an Ebay big block scrub electric pump that I gutted and then made an aluminum plate to adapt it to the Y engine. Although I had reservations about using it in the competition due to some air lock issues that were cropping up, it worked just fine in the competition. In fact, the engine temperatures with each qualifying pull were consecutively dropping and the last pull was at 136°F which was in itself a performance deterrent. When I build a new version of the electric pump, I do have a plan on how to make the pump self priming and eliminate the air block issue.

And that’s the short story of what happened at the Engine Masters Challenge.

Supercharger Fuel Pump

Rono — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:26:41 GMT

I picked up a used VS57 unit yesterday for my 331 stroker build and I'm still a bit confused on the fuel pump issue. In looking at some schematics in PDF fles for the original VS57 set-ups, it shows an electrical and mechanical fuel pump. In talking to others, I'm told that all you need to use is a mechanical fuel pump with a drilled and tapped hole in the top of the pump (in the correct location) to run a vacuum line from the pump to the S/C unit. Can someone explain the method they use for providing more fuel at higher RPM's and less fuel at lower RPM's?

Thanks,

Rono.

la Carrera Panamericana 09

Carson — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:15:39 GMT

We just completed the historic 3600 km , 7 day rally ( unlimited speed sections ) thru mainland Mexico with 100 other vintage cars,

We, my 25 year old daughter was my co-piloto this year ,had a comfortable 5:30 minute lead going into the fifth day , but slide wide and put it in a ditch. After repairs finished second in class and 32 overall ( 100 cars started ). The Mummert Y block never let us down ( third year in a row ) There was only one other Y block in the race a beautiful '54 Lincoln Capri which unfortunatly crashed on the sixth day .

checkout www.lscheller.blogspot.com

giddy up , Carson

312 crankshaft

jepito — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:10:38 GMT

I was wanting to offset grind my crank, but I"m a little worried about strength. I am shooting for 400hp and shifting around 6000-6500rpm. Where is the safe limit? What do you think is pushing it? I would like go to a 2.000 journal, but not if it risks a catastrophe.

overheadcam y block

yalincoln — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:49:43 GMT

hi Ted! don't know how many people have seen this? don't know how to list it here, you'll have to go to , Ford v8 y-block argentina , search, to see it. it also has a couple photo's of the phase II engine, just thought you might like to check it out, wayne.

1st day on the strip - disappointing

NewPunkRKR — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:26:32 GMT

So I took the Fairlane to the strip for the first time today. Did 8 runs in about 35 mins, and the result was consistent and SLOW.

Average Results:

R/T	0.562
60'	2.672
330'	7.577
1/8	11.595
MPH	61.64
1000'	15.056
1/4	18.091
MPH	76.20

My first conclusion is I need a limited slip. Track attendant said right rear just spun all the way off the line But even once it connected, I didn't feel like it was pulling. Any advice on where I can get one and what's involed in swapping it?

Has anyone had problems with the throttle linkage working properly with the Demon JR 525 carb? I feel like I couldn't get WOT? What secondary spring is recommend for that carb? I thought I had fixed my timing and fuel problems but driving it hard on the strip and then 75MPH on the highway home it doesn't seem to run right. Fuel ratio gauge doesn't even read at a cruise (goes below lean). I've spent a lot of time and money this summer and feel like I have taken steps backwards in how the car is running. I know guys on this site are running faster than what I did with little to no modifications. Very discouraging. - John

Racing automatics

mongo — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:26:36 GMT

Out of all automatics out there, which one can take the most beating under racing conditions only ? I am a stick person, but I am leaning towards a C4 , don't want a c6 , size and wiegh . Is anything else out there , for a high power , low wieght car ?

hilborn fuel injection

jepito — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:49:31 GMT

I've been working on building an injection set up for my 312. it uses hilborn throttle bodies and my own bases to adapt to the heads. I was wondering if anyone else would be interested in a set. I'm making them by hand on my mill, but if there was enough buyers out there i would consider having a company cnc a few sets to sell. Just thought i would throw the idea out there and see what you guys think.

Srait up drag races on Saturday the 10th of Oct.

mctim64 — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:19:39 GMT

This is the Drags I have been talking about, sorry to post so late but if you are some what close you should come by and see the fun. :D

Engine Masters Challenge Schedule for the Y

Ted — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:21:48 GMT

I’ve had several persons express an interest in seeing the Y run at the EMC competition in Lima, Ohio so here’s my schedule.

Have the engine at Lima, Ohio on Tuesday Oct 6^th, 2009

Set up the engine on the dyno cart starting at 1PM Wednesday Oct 7^th, 2009.

Run the Y at 9AM-11AM Thursday Oct 8^th, 2009.

Friday is the day that the top six get to run their engines again for ‘Top Dog’ honors.

Beaver Springs, jalopy showdown drags

pintoplumber — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:58:53 GMT

Saturday I went to the jalopy showdown drags at Beaver Springs Dragway. Pre '64 cars. Turns out it was heads up racing instead of handicap so I didn't have a chance. Three classes, big block, small block, and fours, sixes and flatties. I had fun anyway and the east coast gassers were there with 16 cars. I'll post some pictures of that tommorrow.

I set up the canopy and hung up the y blocks forever sign. I was wearing my y blocks forever tee shirt, and another guy wearing one came over. Never met him before.

[IMG]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm298/pintoplumber/beaversprings09011.jpg[/IMG]

Mike Mendiburu from Sussex NJ[IMG]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm298/pintoplumber/beaversprings09002.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm298/pintoplumber/beaversprings09010.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm298/pintoplumber/beaversprings09009.jpg[/IMG]

292 + .030 471 blower, crager intake, fenton cast irin headers

some more pictures[IMG]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm298/pintoplumber/beaversprings09004.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm298/pintoplumber/beaversprings09006.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm298/pintoplumber/beaversprings09005.jpg[/IMG]

2009 Columbus Y-Shootout pics

Ted — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:24:05 GMT

Jim has the put the link on the home page that will take you to the 2009 Columbus pics. Not all the pics are loaded up yet, but there’s already enough there to help satisfy most itches you may have. Here’s the shortcut to the galleries.

http://www.y-blocksforever.com/EXPO09.html

Thanks Jim as I realize this took some major work on your end.

Wally Kirstein's 56

John Mummert — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:59:04 GMT

Just got off the phone with Wally Kirstein. His beautiful 56 Sedan ran 110mph this last weekend.

He now realizes that what he thought was a slipping clutch at Columbus was actually a set of worn out slicks.

Wally was in the hospital early this week and said the last couple of days were a liittle rough but he's feeling better now.

Now that the arteries to his head are fully open his reaction times might get even better, lol

Good news for Wally and his car.

jerry christianson intakes

1964fordf100292 — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:38:06 GMT

Does anyone know how to get ahold of one of jerrry's fancy intakes? i've seen pics of some of the ones he's made and i would like to get ahold of one and convert it to an multi-port efi intake.

Charlie's new engine

RB — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:14:37 GMT

Did anybody hear if Charlie was able to run his new motor on the chassis dyno? . I imagine he has left for Bonneville by now

Ol Ford Guy

Hoosier Hurricane — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:34:16 GMT

Paul:

Have you found out why your secondaries won't open? One common problem is the gaskets where the vacuum housings bolt to the carb. They can be installed in any of 3 different ways. One way is right. One way blocks the vacuum from getting to the diaphragm. One way creates a vacuum leak. With the common connection between the carbs, a vacuum leak at one housing will also leak the vacuum from the other one, so neither works. You probably don't need to ask me how I know this.

Columbus Video

Jim — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:53:39 GMT

I just uploaded an in-car video of Doug Thrasher making a pass at Columbus. Got the laptop back from Ted today so be looking for pictures link in the next few days as I wade through the images.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hy088QCk98]Doug's pass[/url]

TEXAS RACER/COLUMBUS

Ol Ford Guy — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:46:04 GMT

I was googling NHRA 57 Rules and ran across a picture and comments about a drag racer from Texas, Jim Butler. It says he won just about every race he was in in a 57 Ranchero, the picture shows a bonnet...so I presume his Ranchero was an F code. He was also World Points Champion in 1966 with a Falcon Ranchero. I will try to attach a picture of his 57 Ranchero. Someone has a tape recorded interview of Jim, He is no longer living.

Columbus was great again this year. Extra special thanks to the Bob Martin, the Hutton's and Ted Eaton was helping everybody.