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| Hello all- I was registered on the old forum, & lurk here daily but ordinarily don't post much. I do participate on the HAMB & a question came up about the Lincoln Y as installed in a Lincoln, specifically the transmissions. The poster owns a '56 Premier with a 368 (per him) and a fading transmission. He doesn't know what the trans is, or the code, but believes it is a single range Turbo-Drive....which I'm guessing might be the Lincoln slang for a Ford-O-Matic, etc. He has heard vague details of the Ford/Merc Y FMX swap & wants to know if it's possible. I'm wondering if the Turbo-Drive has a longer case, like a HX Cruise-O-Matic...or if it's a bolt-in. In that case...er, situation..., would he drill the top two holes on the Lincoln bell, use the Lincoln converter & front pump, & bolt it together? Or, does he need to do the FMX converter & pilot adapter with the FMX pump? Or, three, does he get to do the "hybrid" converter? I'd like to know this for my own use as well, because the Lincoln Y seems to be popping up more & more in customs. Any guidance, shrugs, or creatively worded insults welcomed.
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| Anybody? Anybody at all? 52 views & nobody has any idea? Wow, maybe I have B.O. or something.
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| Homespun: According to my old NAPA book, the '56 Lincoln is indeed a FOM. Also, my old torn Motors manual covers the Turbodrive in the same section as the FOM. That being the case, I would guess that the FMX swap is feasible. But I would think that if there are no broken parts, an overhaul of his existing transmission would be the way to go. After all, it's lasted 50 years. John
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| I was at a swapmeet last year and a 57 lincoln frame with running gear was for sale. I looked it over and it had the ford-o-matic. I'm sure some parts are different but the same dog. I was thinking of the fmx when I was looking at it. You could use your 56 converter and pump as long as the imput shaft is the same. The ford-o input shaft is not the same as an fmx. The mercury I understand is.
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| Thanks John & Darrell, that gives me something to go with. I'll pass it on. I'm not certain why he's interested in swapping it out....a lot of the custom guys tend to do that...kind of a knee-jerk reaction, they figure the old transmissions aren't any good for anything. Most of them want the original engine for braggin' rights (not cool to swap in a SBC, & the ones who do, end up adapting Olds Rocket valve covers to them to hide the Chebby.)
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| Although I have done a fair amount of work with the Lincoln engines, I have never messed with the turbodrive trans. I am thinking it is a HD version of the FordO. I used the old Hydramatic which is a far beefier unit but heavier and maybe not a bolt in on a 56. I would explore dropping an FMX in there using the same basic instructions as you would if you were replacing a FordO. The Lincoln however does not use a one piece flexplate/ring gear so adapting a FMX convertor is a problem. Bernstens tranasmission Ham Lake Minn makes an adapter to a 700 R4. I made my own 1 piece flexplate/ring gear with the idea of eventually putting a C-4 behind one of mine. Someone once told me a Lincoln Turbodrive was the most expensive vintage automatic to rebuild with exception of the Packard.
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| The LINC used the MERC-O-MATIC (single range) until redesign in 1958 (TWIN-TURBO). The LINC Y-BLOCK bell mounting pattern is unique.
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I don't know if this helps but according to a book I have, the 1952-3 Lincolns used G.M. Hydramatics. It does not say that for 1954. but indicates that Turbo-Drive was new for 1955..
Paul
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| Thanks, all. Some other posters there indicated that the Hydramatic won't fit into a '56 without major surgery to the tunnel. Apparently the factory years for it were '52-'54, which goes along with your book, Paul. Per a PM he sent me, his trans looks identical to a Ford-O/Merc-O, externally, anyway. He is aware now that the Lincoln Y has the unique bell pattern (what, Ford? Unique trans patterns? Who'da thunk it?  ), so he sounds like he's leaning towards a SBC swap..trying to discourage that one...kinda sick of seeing the SBC in non-Chebby cars, myself, after fifty years of it.
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