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Posted Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:34 PM
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Hi guys!

Have a strange thing on my 56 Vicky, I have been living with it for a while now but want to see if anyone has a quick fix or has seen it before.  I searched and didn't come up with anything that seemed related.

When the car sits for a few days I have to pump and crank it for about 10 seconds then it fires right up.  (I think this is very normal).  Then if I shut it off and restart it within about 5 min's it fires up as soon as I hit the starter.... GREAT...

However, the problem is if I run it till it's warm and then shut it off and wait an hour or so (like drive to a cruise or something), it takes a LOT of cranking (20 seconds) and pumping to get it started, then it runs rough for about 5 seconds... and then is back to normal.  If I then shut it off it will start up immediately again.

Could it be something like a stuck choke or bad float bowl or something?

Thanks!!!

Andrew 56-Vicky

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Posted Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:00 PM


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Didn't think about it much, but how about leak down through the power valve?

Patients, persistence, time .... and a little cash.
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Posted Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:05 PM
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Andrew: Your in Australia if I recall. Hot weather? Sounds like a possible heat percolation problem... ??

Paul
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Posted Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:59 PM


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It sounds very much like you are losing the fuel in the float bowl of the carb.  The difficulty in starting after a hour is caused by an extreme rich condition.  You don't say what carb you have. But if it is anything but a late model Holley 4 bbl you can take the top cover off and watch it to see if it leaks down.  You can take it off the car if you don't like the heat and gasoline together and do it in a cooler place. There could be a number of leaks depending on which carb it is but one thing they are all prone to have is a porosity caused by corrosion if water has been in them. 

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Posted Monday, May 12, 2008 6:45 AM
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If you figure out whats wrong with your carb let me know mine is doing the same thing . I have 3x2s holley 94s. I have done all I know to the carb to get it right. I had the same trouble when I had a 390 cfm 4bbl on it.

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Posted Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:14 AM
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Hi guys, I'm finally back in town and have access to the site again.

I've done some playing with the T-pot (still having issues).  If I run it till its hot (185*) then shut it down and pull the top off the carb I see little streams of bubbles coming up through the fuel. I assume that is percolation mentioned above.  As this is bubbleing I also see fuel coming in from the inlet valve.

So, if this is percolation, is there a good way to fix it? I'm in AZ and it's pretty warm now so I need to get it fixed if I'm going to drive it much.

One guy at a cruise in mentioned that percolation causes the fuel to evaporate and the issue when you try to start it isn't that it's flooded but that it has to pump the lines full again. He suggested I add an electric fuel pump to run for a few seconds before I start it.  What do you guys think?

Andrew 56-Vicky

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Posted Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:27 AM
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I have almost the same problem with mine ,   but only after it sits about a week......I have an elderbrock  500 on it , and believe it drains down through the carb..............on a restart it fires right off....   If you havnt  done so yet ,  check the points , plugs ................Sam

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Posted Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:17 PM
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Andrew:

As the fuel percolates, where are those fuel vapors going?  They are collecting in the air filter.  That causes a rich mixture when you try to restart.  Sometime when it's warmed up, shut it down and take the air filter off.  Let it sit for an hour and then put the filter back on and try to start it.  See if it acts any differently.

Do you have the 1/2" thick phenolic spacer between the manifold and carb.  That should insulate the carb some to reduce percolation.  There is a little flat metal clip around the accelerator pump rod just below the air cleaner flange.  That clip covers a hole in the pump rod, slide the clip up or down on the rod to uncover the hole.  Also, be sure the heat riser valve between the right exhaust manifold and the exhaust pipe is free, or in your climate, just tie it open.  That will reduce intake manifold heat.  Truck intake gaskets can be used to further reduce intake heat.  In your area, you might get away with blocking the exhaust heat at the juncture of the heads and manifold.

John in Selma, IN

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Posted Friday, June 06, 2008 9:05 AM