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After I finished High School, I took some College courses as well as some trade school courses. While I was learning to machine things automotive, I was fortunate to be taught to use a boring bar. One of the engines I practiced on was an old 292. I bored it out almost to 4 inches and was planning on seeing just how far I could go before I hit the water jacket. I was hoping to be able to enlarge the bore enough to put sleeves in it to give me a 4 inch bore and ultimately to give me a displacement of 352 cubic inches.
Now never having cast anything, a new block capable of being machined to a 4 inch bore might not be a possibility or the cost might be so high to make it that it would never be made. But, think of it, a new Y-Block casting with improved webbing, perhaps a main cap like the 427s had with cross bolt mains. Improved cooling, better rear main seal, improved oiling system and other improvements.
Ideas anyone, Am I crazy? 
Marvin
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Marv: I wouldn't suggest you are crazy, but you're certainly a dreamer! This subject has been thrashed out both here & extensively in Y-Block Magazine. Unfortunately, it's all a waste of time & paper. It's not going to happen! Pegleg, on this site, aka Frank Rice, who is in the casting business, I believe has estimated the cost to bring your dream to reality at about $200,000!....
Paul
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Well Paul, I sort of had the idea it might be a difficult task and yes, I would imagine it would take cubic dollars to come to fruition. I'm familiar with other groups of collectors of other items that have pooled resources or had one member wealthy enough to cover costs for reproducing rare or uncommon items. One man I am familiar with is a steam engine collector. He and friends frequently travel great distances to rescue engines, boilers and other related parts. They have teamed together to have new castings made of broken/worn out parts. Another group of collectors I am familiar with is one I am a part of. I collect old pressure lamps mainly Coleman lamps. I have lamps from the early teens of the last century. They had for the most part, glass shades which one can imagine did not survive well. One member of my group has had new dies made and has new shades blown out of glass. These are identical to the originals other than the fact one can clearly see the glass has not aged yet. The dies for just one type of shade ran several thousand dollars. Of course, the price of newly reproduced shades is much higher than what they would have cost, but still much lower than an original one brings to a collector.
Anyway, I threw this out to see if anyone had the capabilities and/or means to bring this to fruition. Plus I thought it would make a good topic of conversation.
Best to you all.
Marvin
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| Anyway, isn't it more fun blowing away Scrubs with origional Y's? If we get over into production race motors (aluminum blocks etc) we will be leaving the real Y-Blocks behind. With Randy Gummelt's dragster capable of high 7's with an original cast block what else do we need. Supply of 312 blocks isn't such a big issue since the 292 blocks are generally better around the mains and many of them will bore and stroke to 312 and beyond. A lot of the "old" racers still prefer 292's with 312 cranks. Even a good 272 may sonic well enough to go to 312 and beyond. Even if a sponsor came along the vast majority of us couldn't afford the engine anyway! Anyway, thats my 2 cents. Chuck in NH
Y's guys rule!Looking for McCullouch bracketts and parts. Also looking for 28 Chrysler series 72 parts.  
MoonShadow, 292 w/McCulloch 28 Chrysler Roadster (Y in the works!)
Manchester, New Hampshire
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| Marvin, because of the Y-blocks oil filter location, the #4 main cap would have to have four parallel bolts instead of being cross-bolted, unless a remote oil filter mount is used. Like the Def Leppard song Rock of Ages says : " Its better to burn out than fade away. "
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Marvin. As you mention, it takes a personal passion for some of these parts to come to fruition. It took years to bring a decent aluminum single four Y intake manifold to market and the aluminum heads are still being worked on. I just don’t see anything as complicated as a new aftermarket block for the Y happening anytime soon unless someone with deep pockets is going to make it their own personal passion to insure that it happens. The aftermarket head production for a Y in itself has been an issue with the various manufacturers as they all want some kind of guarantee that the upfront tooling costs can be compensated for in the initial sales push. That’s simply good business on their end as it’s not their passion fueling the desire to make any parts for this particular engine.
  Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)
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