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Posted Friday, December 11, 2009 4:53 PM


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Just a tear down at this point.  Anyone can blow a car apart, but will I be able to pull off a real race car fabrication capable of much higher speeds?  I'm sure I'll need plenty of recommendations and help to steer me along, so please feel free to comment or recommend.  After all, I feel like this is our project.

Next will be a Mustang II front suspension, narrowed 9" rear, Y-Block and T-5 mockup for crossmembers and engine mounts.

I will be working hard to get this thing to look like a race car.  My imagination works well, but a glimpse of the finished product sure helps the inspiration.



Charlie Burns Laton, Ca (South of Fresno)



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Posted Friday, December 11, 2009 5:02 PM
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Y-Guy Charlie:          Looking from the rear, of your "Fireball Komet", it reminds me of

                         one of the airforce's fighter jets(FA-18?)

                                   This will probably stablize the "Fireball" as you approach the "Sound Barrier"....

                          I'm looking forward to following the project on this forum.

                                                            Merry Christmas

                                                                    Bill

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Posted Friday, December 11, 2009 5:16 PM


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awesome start charlie.. can't wait to see it unfold.. did you have any body modifications in mind yet?

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Posted Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:45 AM


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Bill,

I'm all for "stabilize".  Tell Reed I need help on the turbos........

Dustin,

I'm trying to make this a "Gas Coupe" (if you make to many mods, you will be moved up to altered).  The gas coupe rules only allow the following body modifications; front air dam/splitter, hood scoop, radiused wheel openings for tire clearance and minor chrome trim removed.  Currently there is discussion of allowing a spoiler.....we'll see.  I will do all of these mods except for trying to keep the tires under the stock wheel wells. 

Charlie Burns Laton, Ca (South of Fresno)



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Posted Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:15 AM


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Are aero rear fender skirts allowed? and inset the rear wheels? Also how did you choose this body style? Anything like your pickup choice?
Gonna really be cool, go Charlie! and yeah, y not a yblock! did it have to be available in that? (class) or is that irrelevant.



Alan Frakes ~ Tulsa, OK


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Posted Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:04 PM


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Well, Charlie... we are dreaming about these big ones. And, I mean two of them. Like twins, you know

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Posted Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:10 PM
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Charlie, didn't the 59 scrub have trouble with that rear fender set up going airborne..? We will be a watching..here in Mesquite, Texas..

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Posted Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:38 PM


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Awesome Charlie!

You made a lot of progress since I was there a few weeks ago...sure enjoyed the visit!

Todd

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Posted Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:02 AM


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Alan,

There are four basic classes for a sedan like the Comet.  Production (bone stock aerodynamically with an engine that was available from the factory in the year of the given car), gas coupe (pretty much the same as production, but requires an engine swap to something not available from the factory), altered (mainly an engine swap, covered grille and headlights with a few other mods available) and competition coupe (chopped top, extended wheel base from the cowl forward, full belly pan and an engine swap).

So with the Y-Block, it will have to run at least in gas coupe, which is exactly where I plan to be.  The fender skirts are good thinking.  I have only noticed one set and that was on a Corvette.  The rules do say no streamlining, but it doesn't say you cannot run fender skirts, you might have something there.  Most of the guys agree, if it doesn't say you can't, then you can.  I am going to follow up on that.  My intentions are to run a narrowed 9" to stay inside the body.  And yes, the reason I picked this one is the same reason I picked the pickup.

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Posted Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:26 AM


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Seppo,

Is bigger really better?  I know it would look better!  Please keep in mind that we will only be running 258 cu. in.  I have read your turbo articles at least three times and I am filling my head with as much info from books, internet, and experienced racers as possible.  The possibilities include draw-through/blow-through carb, draw-through/blow through mechanical FI (EFI not allowed in the class I'm trying to compete in).  Selecting the right turbo isn't easy while trying to match the volume of air being moved with the maping and A/R ratio.  It's like the old story, the more you know, the more you know you don't know.

Ketterbros,

Yikes, perhaps Bill was thinking that it would be "stabilized" in flight!!!

Todd,

The pleasure was all ours, you are welcome back anytime.  Thanks for all the insight and recommendations on the Mustang II front suspension.  Good luck with the bird, I know it will be a killer ride. 

Charlie Burns Laton, Ca (South of Fresno)



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